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I too think that mother should take care of their child,she should be life a friend for her child.So that child should get full support at childhood stage, how they will know all such things? The law is set the way it is to prevent one parent from rights of another parent because they no longer fit in their life .
I say, when the father pays child support he can get visitation.
WOW!!! just reading about this for the first time and scrolling through the comments. I never comment on anything but this is a real pisser..... What in God's name in this judge thinking of? I am 65 years old and this is a perfect example of why children are screwed up... This is a child!!! why should he be brought into a situation that he is unable to understand and take this to school for show and tell>>> Hope this mother stands her ground and the child is NOT made to experience this at his young age, it will be bad enough to carry this through his adult life.(when that time comes)
Luckily Vinnie has a wonderful stepfather to help make up for his criminal biological father. Prisoners have broken the law and are supposed to lose their rights until their debt to society is paid. Why burden a happy little boy with this horrible mess?
I love how everyone on here is so quick to criticize the judicial system in this story. The "mother" of this child is the one to blame. She chose the father, decided to go to bed with him and have a child with him. Legally, he has every right to see that child. Stop blaming the laws and start blaming the poor decisions of those involved.
Because mom made bad choice why does the child suffer?
I agree wholeheartedly.
Judge Breen had done the same thing to me back in 2004. I was ordered at my expense to bring my child 4 times a year to see her father in prison along with having a phone available for him to be able to call collect once a week. When I failed to do so I was going to be violated and sent to jail plus a 250.00 fine. He was only ordered to pay 25.00 month child support wich was later dropped and not to exceed the amount of 550.00 while being in prison his 5 years he was sentenced too. This judge needs to be terminated!!!
Is it not better for the child to share stories with his classmates of his "Dad" taking him to Karate instead of having to explain to them that his father is in prison! They are surely going to ask "WHY and WHAT FOR?" as that is what children do. They are curious. How this will impact the very fragile mind of a child must be taken into consideration. Why bring a small child into an adult situation. That is what this is, an ADULT situation, not something for a child.
How unfortunate that a court system can rule that an incarcerated person (m/f) has a right to even request a child have a prison visit. Have you been in a prison visiting room, it's a large room shared with pedophiles/murderers/rapists/etc? Not to mention, there are inmates with a host of diseases (HIV/HEP/AIDS/etc). It's not likeyour comfy courts with small meeting rooms, it's metal and concrete. NO PLACE FOR A CHILD!Looking ahead, you can bet if there is to be change in the system, there will be an area similar to a congegal visit space, with an officer present, that a visit can take place for a limited time frame. HOWEVER, I support this mothers decision. I am appalled a judge would even consider this. Another example of how this judicial system is failing families going hand in hand with the CPS system. If this INMATE wanted to be a functional part of this childs life he would have done so while on the outside by obtaining a JOB and supporting his family. Shameful!
("Appellate Division Justice Robert Rose criticized Volino for raising the boy to believe that her new husband is the boy’s father, and opined that she seemed to “promote the misconception” about the identity of the child’s natural father.")....Shame on the senselessness of this statement! Is it not better for the child to share stories with his classmates of his "Dad" taking him to Karate instead of having to explain to them that his father is in prison! They are surely going to ask "WHY and WHAT FOR?" as that is what children do. They are curious. How this will impact the very fragile mind of a child must be taken into consideration. Why bring a small child into an adult situation. That is what this is, an ADULT situation, not something for a child.
Enough kids have great stepdads that it shouldn't be a problem. What happens when the poor kid learns his father is felon AND his mother is a liar. Let father have his time with son, if he doesn't rehabilitate himself, son will figure it out and learn a valuable life lesson.
i agree with the mother. if she feels her child shouldnt visit the father at a PRISION then that should b her choice. when the child is old enough im sure he will know who his real father is. i have been through this. finally at the age of 14 & 13 my childrens real father signed off all rights to my children to my husband and the children r happy now cuz there real dad never had time for them. my children wanted my husband as there father, they even wanted to take my husbands last name. kids r smart and they know whats right. my children were forced to see there real father and they cried and begged washington county judge to not forse it cuz they didnt want to go with him but the judge didnt wanna losten to them. so finally after the adoption my kids were happy they didnt have to see him anymore. when this child is old enough he will decide what he wants.
This mother has every right to protect her son. The courts did not give birth to him nor are they raising him. Stay out of her business!Why aren't the authorities "butting" into the business of mothers who leave their children alone w/ boyfriends who end up hurting or worse killing the child??
I really don't think making a 5 yr. old child go to a prison to visit is father is right. How do we know that it may send a message to a 5 yr. old that it is okay to break laws. The father is a 5 time felon, that should in itself say this man is not and will not be a good role model. The father is going to be there for 16 yrs. that means 16 yrs. of this little boy, then young man having to go through searches and all that entails to visit someone in a max. prison. That decision was totally wrong. Maybe if the judge has a child he should send him for a visit at a prison.
Domestic violence perpetrators continue to attempt to control their victims buy forcing said victims to maintain contact with them, and thus continue to inflict at least emotional pain for years and year after the victim has separated from the perpetrator.
In my opinion Mr Breen is perpetuating a victims abuse by forcing this visitation. Ordering a little 5 year old boy to visit his father in a maximum security prison in itself is abuse of the boy in my opinion. I can't for the life of me see why someone would order this.
Why not video chat ? God knows this technology is available in social services agencies and in every prison.
Im just shaking my head ...sigh
I completely agree.
There's no reason to drag this child into a maximum security prison. A Skype visit is much more appropriate. If done from a therapist's office would, at least, teach the child about consequences to negative behavior, all while being in the supportive environment of an objective party.
This article doesn't tell where Breen is located, but what if its a long distance from the child's residence? Who brings the child there and back? Who provides objective support to and from the visit, when the child is most vulnerable?
She does not have to be the person who physically takes him in to the visit. There is no court order written that states she has to be that person. If she is so traumatized by the thought, then she needs to get someone else to do it. She can petition the court for a social worker to be assigned to these quarterly visits due to her past with the father. However, my spidey-sense tells me that if this was her current husband in prison, she would have zero problems dragging her kids to prison to see daddy. This smacks of spite at this point. Her history has been to disregard court ordered visitation with this man even when he was out. She has never alleged that he has hurt this kid. I'd have a lot more sympathy for her if she hadn't spent the last 5 years finding reasons to keep his son away from him, including telling this child that someone else is his father.
I bet if the shoe was on the other foot she would be screaming at the court for the father to bring the child to see her in prison, their are ways to work around why the father is where he is at but this mother seems not to care if the boy knows who his real father is and is doing whatever she can to make sure of it. Let the child make up his own mind after a few times seeing his Dad if he wants to go back, if he says he doesn't want to go anymore when its time again then do what needs to be done but don't drill it in his head his Dad is bad and say stuff to bad mouth his father and for heavens sake we are only taking about 4 times a year. SUCK IT UP PEOPLE put yourself in the Dads shoes wouldn't you be upset if you were denied seeing your son? I bet if the courts did some digging she isn't the miss goode two shoes she wants everyone to believe she is, her closet has some skeletons hanging in their
I FEEL THAT A CHILD SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO JAIL TO VISIT A PARENT. THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR A CHILD. I KNOW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IF YOUR CHILD SUPPORT IS NOT UP TO DATE YOU LOOSE ALL RIGHTS. WHEN YOU GET OUT ALL THE CHILD SUPPORT HAS TO BE PAID IN FULL BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE VISITATION.
Then move to Texas. Child support and visitation should never influence one another. To suggest someone cannot see their child because they have/can not pay support is asinine. If you are behind in your support, then you lose your license, have your pay garnished, or go to jail. My past work experience has taught me that when you toss a deadbeat in jail, they usually "magically" find the arrears. A child should not be punished with a lack of time with their parent simply because that parent has fallen behind on support. I hate being in New York for so many reasons but, after reading your comment, I am far happier to be here than Texas.
I'm on the moms side on this one... sounds like the "dad" is just a dead beat... give the child a chance not to be like him.
"The boy was conceived during one of Kadio’s brief stints outside of jail, and was born while Kadio was in jail for an earlier conviction."
Sounds like some really sound judgement all around.
I feel sorry for this child. Both of the parents have shown a lack of good decision making skills. The wellbeing of the child should come first, not the parents desires in regard to their personal relationships. The court orders should be followed.
I couldn't agree more. The law does not allow her to terminate his rights at her whim. She is now screaming that she does not want to take him to a prison. I don't believe for one minute that the location is as much the issue as is the fact that he wants to see his child and she doesn't want him to. She has, per the findings, made this boy believe that her current husband is his father, and apparently refused to follow the past court-ordered visitation. I can't help but wonder that when she splits with her current husband, will she start telling her kid that her new boyfriend is his dad? The law is set the way it is to prevent one parent from effectively terminating the rights of another parent because they no longer fit in with their life or out of spite. If she had a legitimate, provable concern then she would have had better footing to request termination or a limit to his visitations.
The man did not seem to want to be a part of the childs life from the get go. If he did he would have tried to clean up his life and do right by the child when he was out of prison not in. What could he possibly add to this childs life while being in prison for 16 yrs. I have brought a child to see their father while in prison, this child lived and knew her father 8 yrs. prior to him going to prison. The drive there and the searches and waiting and the visit itself was an r-rated film. A fight broke out in the room and we were led outside to stand for 15 minutes in the winter with no coats. Needless to say prisons were not meant for children that's why none are there.
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