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Police: Glens Falls man spotted trying to lure girl, 6, into Crandall Park

2011-06-20T10:55:00Z 2012-08-09T09:28:07Z Police: Glens Falls man spotted trying to lure girl, 6, into Crandall ParkBy DON LEHMAN dlehman@poststar.com Glens Falls Post-Star
June 20, 2011 10:55 am  • 

GLENS FALLS -- A Glens Falls man was arrested Saturday night after he allegedly tried to lure a 6-year-old into the woods of Crandall Park, police said.

Allen R. "A.J." Way, 49, of Grove Street, was charged with endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor, and unlawful possession of marijuana, a noncriminal violation, police records show.

He was arrested after police got an 8 p.m. call about a "suspicious" man in the park trying to coax a girl to go into the woods with him near the baseball field, Glens Falls Police Sgt. Robert Ash said.

The baseball field is near the bandshell in the park.

The suspect had been chased into the woods by a group of men who had confronted him. Court records show that, when police sorted out the details, they found a girl who said a shirtless man tried to get her to follow him into the woods and a woman who witnessed the man gesturing to the girl.

"The man was trying to bring her into the woods," witness Heather Viele told police, according to court records. "The man would take a few steps back and the girl would take a few steps forward."

The girl was the daughter of an acquaintance of Viele's, and Viele said, when she saw the man approach the girl, she alerted other adults.

The girl, whose name was not released, told police that the man was waving at her to come toward him and saying, "Come here," as he stood on the edge of the woods.

"He kept walking toward me and kept waving at me, telling me ‘Come here,'" she told police.

Way told police that the girl had said hello to him, and then he was chased into the woods by a group of men.

Police located him a short time later and found that he had a small quantity of marijuana.

A message left with a relative of Way's was not returned on Monday.

Way was arraigned in City Court and released, pending prosecution in City Court. The charges are punishable by up to a year and 15 days in Warren County Jail.

 

 

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  1. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 28, 2011 9:15 pm
    Ok... time for another article on the damage that can be done by "profiling" and jumping to conclusions. And the importance on getting both sides of the story before accusing someone... etc. etc. etc.
  2. 7Secondstofall
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    7Secondstofall - June 26, 2011 11:49 pm
    Is it really that hard to type out "you" and not "u"?

  3. northcountrymom
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    northcountrymom - June 25, 2011 12:47 am
    I'm a little confused, the ball field near the bandstand doesn't have any woods around it...
  4. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 24, 2011 3:47 pm
    Proofreading error on my part:

    3. If the reporter took his information from the actual police reports, why WEREN'T Mr. Way's statements reported as well?

  5. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 24, 2011 12:49 pm
    Ok... lets get to the facts:
    1. At which ballfield did this incident take place. Report states "The baseball field is near the bandshell in the park." Would any of the "witnesses" care to clarify this?
    2.How many people interacted with the little girl prior to her interview with the police? And what information did they unintentionally place in this little girl's memory of what just happened?
    3. If the reporter took his information from the actual police reports, why was Mr. Way's statements reported as well?
    4. As to the questions re: Mr Way's criminal history? He is retired WITH HONORS from the US Navy. No criminal history of ANY kind.
    5."Police located him a short time later..." The police located Mr. Way because he was on the phone WITH the police asking where he should go to meet them... as the adults were chasing him.
    6."Police: Glens Falls man spotted trying to lure girl, 6, into Crandall Park" Where is the word "allegedly" in any of this article.
  6. comnsense
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    comnsense - June 24, 2011 1:13 am
    As far as homeagain57 and the comments about false memory …false memory is brought about when the subject is being lead by someone, whether knowingly or not, to remember something in the past. My understanding is that this incident was reported immediately and therefore false memory doesn’t come into play. And nowhere does it mention the suspect being picked out of a line-up. And don’t be blaming a little girl for playing in the park with her family near by. Next you’ll be saying she was wearing provocative clothing.

  7. comnsense
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    comnsense - June 24, 2011 1:11 am
    Snarky wrote "not nearly enough time to correct the ignorance that saturates this town." When you do find the time please, please enlighten us, and remember what they say about people in glass houses.
    Now we can’t trust reporters, the press, and a little girl? Keep the conspiracies coming. Re-read the article and the “second hand reports such as a news reporter” are actually the statement of facts as reported to the police. The reporter clearly states that he’s reporting what was told to the police. Not once does he give his opinion of the case. He is in no way a “second hand party.” Get your facts straight.
    And what does "last i knew, we were not in a state to assume we can trust the media in anyway,” even mean?

    Of course the man in question is innocent until proven guilty but that doesn’t mean it should not be reported
    in the paper.
  8. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 23, 2011 8:55 pm
    Ayjay is part of my family. I am proud to say I know him and admire the man he is. I have been seen what can happen when someone has been wrongly accused due to witness misunderstanding what he/she saw. A child will pick up on the fear the adults' introduce into the situation. Whether conscious or sub-consciously, an innocuous gesture such as saying "bye-bye" can be misconstrued as "oh, my god, he's trying to coax this little girl into the woods." IF she actually was in the process of following Ayjay into the woods, she obviously was not fearful of the situation. If she is having nightmares from this event, they come from the adults' reactions. It is understandable
  9. Unknown Echo
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    Unknown Echo - June 23, 2011 7:13 pm
    Okay, if this man had no bad intentions, why was he shirtless trying to get a young girl to follow him into the woods? Any NORMAL person would realize what that would look like and that it is a bad idea. I'm sure the police's interviews with the child and adults had the facts. People don't usually get arrested for nothing.
  10. Counselor Troi
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    Counselor Troi - June 23, 2011 5:56 pm
    1) Why was he motioning to the girl to come to him?
    2) Why did he run into the woods rather than standing his ground and facing the mens' questions?
  11. thezuule
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    thezuule - June 23, 2011 11:46 am
    plumcaravan said: "Last time I checked, in America a person is innocent until proven guilty. According to the "facts", as reported, they are conflicting to say the least. The "witnesses" did not see the same events. Please do not judge, lest you be judged."

    You aren't innocent until proven guilty in Glens Falls, sorry, that doesn't fly here.
  12. thezuule
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    thezuule - June 23, 2011 11:42 am
    bluebird06 said: "To home again 57.......yes i have met this person and his partner......... "

    Ohhhh so because he is a homosexual he MUST be a child molester......... right.....
  13. Jetpat
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    Jetpat - June 22, 2011 7:32 pm
    Hmmm...man comes out of the woods and motions a 6 year old girl to follow him.
    I read and re-read the story and didn't see any conflicting "stories". The guy was seen by the little girl and the adults. He was chased, where he ran BACK into the woods and was confronted. Why would there be any need for a line-up?
    So, to those that would defend a person who would do this, I can only ask ~ What are you thinking?! Like really.
  14. plumcaravan
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    plumcaravan - June 22, 2011 5:25 pm
    Last time I checked, in America a person is innocent until proven guilty. According to the "facts", as reported, they are conflicting to say the least. The "witnesses" did not see the same events. Please do not judge, lest you be judged.
  15. blacksheep
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    blacksheep - June 22, 2011 4:44 pm
    Hoemagain57: Once again you are on here defending this man and blaming the child and the parents. If you want to defend this man that is your right but please answer the following questions since you seem to know so much about this man.
    1. If he wasn't trying to lure the girl into the woods, what was he doing?
    2. Does this man have a criminal past?
    3. Has he ever been convicted of crimes against children before?

    Why is it that you did not answer these questions? You speak as if you know this man so it should be very simple to answer these questions. Also you stated that you taught your children not to talk to strangers at a very young age. As parents we teach our children many things but it doesn't mean they always listen, correct? I'm sure your children never did anything that you told them not to....look at it through the child’s eyes.
  16. tatmom08
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    tatmom08 - June 22, 2011 2:56 pm
    homeagain57 this is towards ur comment!!!!! this is so off what the situation is!!!! the little girl identified him face to face. the other person that made the identification didnt see his face up close just what he was wear. as far as eye witnesses changing there stories how abt the little girl this happened to!! and the first eye witness was no were around when the little girl did her statement nor did she even talk to her after this happened cause she was the one that helped keep the perv close in her sights so he didnt get away so that person was no were around the little girl for over an hr... so to me u are sounding like u are a friend or a relative of this person.. well u werent there u didnt see wht happened!!!!! everyone there did... put urself in this little girls shoes... she is having nightmares cause of this!!!!!
  17. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 22, 2011 1:38 pm
    There is solid evidence that once a witness has discussed the "event", their memory of it is most likely changed based on the audience and the retelling of the event. The following is part of one of the many, many articles explaining many of the problems with multiple witnesses, etc. "Once witnesses state facts in a particular way or identify a particular person as the perpetrator, they are unwilling or even unable—due to the reconstruction of their memory—to reconsider their initial understanding.
    When a witness identifies a person in a line-up, he is likely to identify that same person in later line-ups, even when the person identified is not the perpetrator. Although juries and decision-makers place great reliance on eyewitness identification, they are often unaware of the danger of false memories:The Problem with Eyewitness Testimony:a talk by Barbara Tversky, Professor of Psychology and George Fisher, Professor of Law. Laura Engelhardt http://agora.stanford.edu/sjls/Issue%20On
  18. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 22, 2011 1:07 pm
    'Courts, lawyers and police officers are now aware of the ability of third parties to introduce false memories to witnesses. For this reason, lawyers closely question witnesses regarding the accuracy of their memories and about any possible "assistance" from others in the formation of their present memories.'
    http://agora.stanford.edu/sjls/Issue%20One/fisher&tversky.htm
  19. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 22, 2011 1:00 pm
    Read the article... read some comments... hmmmm so-called facts seem to be changing...
  20. St-Egreve
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    St-Egreve - June 22, 2011 7:27 am
    snarky, I wasn't there so I didn't see what happened. You weren't there either so you didn't see what happened. Other people who were there did see what happened. They say they witnessed him motioning to the girl to follow him into the woods. That is what he's accused of at this point.

    I wonder, would you mind listing the "holes in story" as you perceive them ? Thank you.
  21. GFarry
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    GFarry - June 22, 2011 5:01 am
    Snarky; perhaps the perp should not have placed himself in this embarrasing positon. Why was he gesturing to a 6 year-old in the first place? You want to give this man the benefit of the doubt? Fine. If his actions and intent were innocent, why not approach an adult...NOT a 6 year-old child. If he is innocent as you are so say, where are his counter-accusations? If he is normal, indicating a normal level of intelligence, why did he not surmise that his actions might be construed very badly?
    Face it snarky; this guy is a bad apple...and please do us all a favor and stop insulting our intelligence. You are the one who seems to be a little slow in this matter. In fact, you seem rather bespotted with this man...is there some connection? Or are you normally this vocal in defense of would-be pedophiles? Or maybe you are a staunch advocate of the presumption of innocence...even if that support comes at the expense of a 6 year-old girl.
  22. karma1670
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    karma1670 - June 22, 2011 1:51 am
    Seriously... its all black and white. Where are we as a society blaming a little girl for a sick mans intention? Yea.. who am I to say..just a concerned citizen whom would hope you could bring your child to a public park and feel safe...unfortunately it is sick pervs such as this man that takes that away. He wasnt in the park "sightseeing".. he was there on a mission..lookin for a child to prey upon. Im a firm believer the truth will come out and he will get his day as well as all of his "followers" condoning his actions. Message to all... he probably has friends/partners just as interested..... beware of this
  23. bluebird06
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    bluebird06 - June 21, 2011 10:47 pm
    so proud of you bro,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,way to go........ awsome..........good job............you are the man.....
  24. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 21, 2011 10:35 pm
    I had someone connected to this article state that he/she had seen this man "lurking" in Crandall park last year. Anyone who does know Mr. Way knows that it is not possible. A case of mistaken identity or profiling?
  25. bluebird06
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    bluebird06 - June 21, 2011 10:07 pm
    some people should be carefull of throwing stones..... i am not a religious person,,,,, but i am speritual.... some people need to look back in time ..... and think about the things they have done....realy think about it.... some things are not foregivin......
  26. bluebird06
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    bluebird06 - June 21, 2011 9:04 pm
    To home again 57.......yes i have met this person and his partner.........
  27. snarkyandproud
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    snarkyandproud - June 21, 2011 6:18 pm
    my comments are in no way "bizarre". if we are going to stick to the facts, then why is anyone commenting on the reports of a second hand party such as a news reporter.

    accused and convicted are two extremely different things. I feel for this man who now has his face and name publicized for the world to see with such allegations attached to them.

    i feel as though if people are going to place blame, each side should be presented. last i knew, we were not in a state to assume we can trust the media in anyway.

    it seems there are holes in this story and people are throwing their thoughts around without regard for the potential damage to the life of another. the accusations are serious, and i understand being on heightened alert for people who are pedophiles.... but it seems to be more of a witch hunt around there. apparently if you are male, it isn't safe to be anywhere on your own....especially a public venue.
  28. fairness
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    fairness - June 21, 2011 2:50 pm
    Of course this man is innocent until proven guilty, but as citizens we have an inherent right to discuss this case as presented in this article. And there are numerous eyewitness accounts, in the article and here in these comments, as well as the statements from the child, that all indicate that the accused tried to lure that girl into the woods. And as to the specious comments alluding to the "lack of parenting", that is nearly libelous. The child was obviously supervised by a large number of adults, who thankfully realized the situation early enough to prevent great harm. And of course the adults ran after the man. Even if there were a hundred of them they should have. The bizarre comments by "snarkeyandproud" make one wonder if that could be someone close to the accused? If so then they surely have a right to defend the man. But they, as everyone, should stick to the facts as they are known, or presented here.

  29. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 21, 2011 2:18 pm
    Well stated "snarky".
  30. fairness
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    fairness - June 21, 2011 2:09 pm
    Of course this man is innocent till proven guilty. But as this area is for citizen comments, then there is an inherent right to give our thoughts and opinions. The article clearly states that the police have the child's statements, as well as a female adult's. And in this comment blog is the statement of another witness who describes his/her eyewitness account. ALL of these accounts tell of the child NOT being alone there, and they also detail this accused man's attempts to lure the girl into the woods. Once the adults became aware of the situation, of course they confronted the man.

    There is no issue of "fairness" in the five adults chasing this man. Even if there were a dozen adults, they still should have confronted the man. And "snarkyandproud" states that there was a "herd of screaming people running towards the man". Nowhere in the article or comments is there anything remotely like that. Does make one wonder if the commenter is either the accused or a relative.
  31. blacksheep
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    blacksheep - June 21, 2011 2:06 pm
    snarkyandproud said: "so much to say, and not nearly enough time to correct the ignorance that saturates this town. how lucky are you all, to have found a scapegoat to compensate for the apparent lack of parenting involved in this situation.

    Really you are going to blame the parents? As a mother I find it appalling that anyone would blame the parents or the child. I know I have taught my children not to speak to strangers but I also know that children are curious and trusting. It is sad that we live in a society where we cannot go to a public park without having someone lurking in the woods watching our kids.

    So if he wasn't trying to lure the girl into the woods, what was he doing? Does this man have a criminal past? Has he ever been convicted of crimes against children before? Those of you that want to speak up and say what a good person this man is should be more than happy to answer those questions, right?
  32. snarkyandproud
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    snarkyandproud - June 21, 2011 1:25 pm
    so much to say, and not nearly enough time to correct the ignorance that saturates this town. how lucky are you all, to have found a scapegoat to compensate for the apparent lack of parenting involved in this situation.

    and yes, be so proud of yourselves for chasing down single person...nothing says fair like 5 on 1. he must be guilty because no innocent person would run away with a herd of screaming people running towards them. i call that self-defense, but what do i know?

    i must say, it is apparent that not one of you concerned citizens of justice have ever been falsely accused of something that has the potential to ruin your life. continue to be on the side of justice my friends... and enjoy your IGNORANCE because i have heard it's bliss.
  33. tatmom08
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    tatmom08 - June 21, 2011 12:15 pm
    some people really are a piece of work!!! they must not know how the pervs work!!! but if it was your child the story would be different!!! right!! no not at all!!!! i was there i saw what happened and the little girl didn't do anything wrong!! the man that was waiving her on did wrong!!! there was plenty of adults there and we were playing a game of baseball!! if we were in the wrong for something don't u think we would've been charged with something to!!!! come people don't be so blinded by the situation!!!!! he did wrong knew he did wrong !!! if he didn't do wrong then he wouldn't have taken off like a bast out of hell!!!!
  34. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 21, 2011 10:43 am
    3) Comments must be civil in tone, and there will be no name calling of any kind.

    I believe referring to someone as a "perv" is a form of name calling.
  35. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 21, 2011 9:09 am
    "You will not post comments that imply suspects in crime-related stories are guilty until they have been proven guilty in a court of law."
  36. homeagain57
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    homeagain57 - June 21, 2011 8:35 am
    How about truth in reporting. And innocent until proven guilty. Do any of you actually know this person? Have you ever seen him before? My kids were taught at a very young age to NOT talk to strangers. How is it these kids were able to supposedly engage in conversation with this person before anyone bacame aware of the "situation"? I hate pedofiles as much as the next... but be sure you know the whole story before potentially destroying an innocent person's life.
  37. worried mom
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    worried mom - June 21, 2011 7:10 am
    There are always 2 sides to a story. Knowing this gentleman you all have no clue of what you speak of. Unfortunatley, stories like this are sensantionlized in the name of sales for the paper. Not everyone who hikes in the woods and stops to take in their surroundings, who has a pony tail...is a perv...Why wasnt the child supervised better so that she could never get away from the parent????
  38. Unknown Echo
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    Unknown Echo - June 20, 2011 4:08 pm
    Hopefully this man gets some major correction before he is sent back out into society. I hope they check his home for any other indication he might be disturbed, such as child pornography. This could have turned into something so much worse than it was, thank goodness there were alert adults watching her.
  39. tatmom08
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    tatmom08 - June 20, 2011 3:40 pm
    as far as the 6 year old being at crandall park alone if u read the story right u would've seen it said we were all at the ball field!!! and kudos to all of us not just the men that chased after him.. if other adults weren't keeping there eyes open who would've known wht the out come would've been!!! this is why my children dont go any were unless i am with them for this reason right here. it dosent matter how old u are it can happen.. this was a serious wake up call to me and my family and my extended family that was at the park with me.....
  40. bbbCA4yrs
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    bbbCA4yrs - June 20, 2011 3:30 pm
    The 6 yr old girl is my cousin and there were 6 adults including myself that went after that sick man. We were all playing ball on the ball field and we saw the man come out of the woods...He seemed to just be watching the game at first and the kids were behind my mother playing with the balloons...The man was very quite and very cautious so that is why we never thought anything of it. A friend of mine was playing in the out field and was staring directly at the man as he motioned to my cousin to follow him into the woods...That was when she called out to my mother, but my mother didnt hear her. So then my friend called out to me and I thought that she was just being a goof ball. She then booked it across the field and that was when I knew that something was wrong. When we first confronted the man we asked him what he was doing and he told us that he was only watching the game. He started to walk back into the woods when we found out exactly what happened
  41. justmy2cents4U
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    justmy2cents4U - June 20, 2011 1:12 pm
    My goodness. Kudos the guys who chased him is right! We could have all been reading a much different story in the paper today.

    @sbrhwkp3 - I think it says one year AND 15 days - in other words...380 days. Let's hope so. Even that hardly seems long enough.
  42. nanowoman
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    nanowoman - June 20, 2011 1:03 pm
    I'm concerned that a 6 year old girl seemed to be in Crandall Park by herself!
    I thank God nothing happened
  43. Miffer
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    Miffer - June 20, 2011 11:25 am
    Kudos to the citizens that chased him!!! Maybe the old way is better since the justice system is blinded in today's world with all these perv's.
  44. sbrhwkp3
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    sbrhwkp3 - June 20, 2011 11:18 am
    Wow. 15 days. Then he can go out and try this again.

    Our laws are so messed up.

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