Some area gun dealers continued to sell high-capacity magazines banned by the NY Safe Act days after Tuesday’s hasty passage of the sweeping gun control legislation, as confusion reigned about when they actually had to pull the clips from their shelves.

And the state took steps Friday night to clear up the widespread befuddlement.

The state Senate passed the controversial crackdown on high-capacity guns late Monday night, only hours after most lawmakers were first handed the lengthy bill, and the Assembly followed suit Tuesday because Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s “message of necessity” waved the traditional three-day vetting period.

The haste at which the bill plowed through Albany meant most of the required state oversight wasn’t in place even though the law technically was.

And local gun dealers, for three days following the law’s enactment, couldn’t get answers from Albany about when they had to pull the banned magazines from their shelves, all while patrons flooded their stores looking to skirt the restrictions.

“I want to comply but nobody is telling me anything,” said Chris Nemec, who operates Nemec’s Sport Shop in Warrensburg, one of several gun dealers overrun with customers seeking supposedly illegal magazines.

Nemec’s repeated calls Thursday to State Police and Cuomo’s office in pursuit of some guidance were fruitless, he said.

“Until we hear something, we’re business as usual,” Nemec said Thursday. “Everybody is freaking out and buying 10-round mags,” he said.

Patrons were buying armfuls of supposedly illegal 10-round magazines from shops throughout the region more than 48 hours after the much of the law went into effect.

The NY Safe Act limits any magazine’s capacity sold in New York to seven rounds, but when the magazine regulations takes effect remained a mystery to dealers and local officials.

Gun owners and dealers looked to area police for clarity, but county sheriff’s offices were equally out of the loop.

“We’ve had no guidance,” said Washington County Sheriff Jeff Murphy on Friday. “People are calling us and we just refer them to State Police.”

Cuomo has said legislation was fast-tracked to avoid a run on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

The New York State Sheriff’s Association struggled to respond to statewide queries from member police agencies. The association was expected Friday to release a guidance sheet to local police, said Warren County Sheriff Bud York.

“This was done so quickly we haven’t had time to digest it,” York said.

State Police posted a lengthy list Thursday on the Internet of firearms that could no longer be sold under the expanded state assault weapons ban. The state launched nysafeact.com Friday evening in an effort to answer the flood of questions by dealers and gun owners. The seven-round magazine limit takes effect April 15, according to the new website.

Cuomo’s use of the message of necessity to fast-track the sweeping ban raised the ire of pro-gun Republican lawmakers, who said it was employed to skirt public scrutiny. Several newspaper editorial boards also criticized Cuomo for the move, arguing it intentionally avoided transparency. The Post-Star editorial board went so far this week as to label the fast-track maneuver as an “abuse of power” and argued Cuomo increasingly relies on the message of necessity as “standard operating procedure” to ram through controversial bills before the public can react.

Cuomo blasted The Post-Star editorial later Thursday on New York Post Capitol reporter Fred Dicker’s radio show, “Live from the State Capitol,” on Talk 1300.

“If you look at the number of messages of necessity, I’ve done less than Spitzer, Pataki, Paterson; I’ve done less,” Cuomo said. “So to say it’s becoming standard operating procedure is wrong. I don’t mind a passionate debate. But when people change the facts, I do mind.”

Cuomo’s predecessors often used the message of necessity on budget bills.

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hdekhtereva
hdekhtereva

What you did was wrong Mr. Cuomo, on many levels, in many ways. You've lost many of the upstate votes the Democrats had. I don't think people will forget this. I sure won't and I 'll remind any who happen to forget. I will also be sure to contact my represneatives to be heard more now than ever, and I will urge others to do the same. I intend to work very, very hard to restore Liberty by getting people voting who have not been. Watch and see what the polls say during the next election. You reap what you sew. I say to you, reap it, and enjoy it.

gs1
gs1

We did it before and we'll do it again. despite all the downstate votes, upstate still voted a governor out of office before. You're next Cuomo.

sheep
sheep

They can't take the guns so they take the bullets. There are no gun companies out there that is going to make 7 rounds magazine for the people of NY they can't get you 1 way they will the other.

whiteletter68
whiteletter68

Almost laughable , isn't it? Andrew is angry. He can't understand why people are upset! People are changing the facts! I don't think so. He is a political bully ,the likeness of his old man, and he doesn't like it when the populace stands up against him. The passing of the new gun laws under the cover of darkness, with no possible public consideration, shows his deceptive personality, and willingness to circumvent the people of this state.His only agenda is the White House in four years. Also. don't forget Chuck Schumer, who hopes to ride in on his coattails. Wake up New York.... this man is out of control!

loneoak
loneoak

Calling the Gov. office on Friday I spoke with a representative but might as well spoke to a machine, the answer to all my questions "I dont know". That was also the answer when I asked "well who do I talk to". Gov. at its finest pass a law and no one knows what is in it, what it is about, how to comply, when to comply or even where can I get the answers to any questions. Perhaps we can get a "message of necessity" for some answers. New york residents deserve better.

gs1
gs1

Upstate voters voted one governor out of office when he tried to do something that had an adverse effect on them, You're next Cuomo.

derringer
derringer

I definitely will not be voting for Cuomo again! I can't believe this was passed without lawmaker's actually having the proper time to read through it! We voted these idiots in to do their jobs, not vote on something post haste! What kind of people are we voting for here...oh that's right they are politicians which defined means liars!

politicoQB
politicoQB

All you negative commenters...no more clips for you! I love it.
Go read a book. No one will ban them. Plus, they don't kill people.
Cuomo gets my vote (and my spouse's, and all our friends', etc).

loneoak
loneoak

First your guns then your books, those who do not learn from history are destined to reliveit. Only then you won't have any guns to stop them from taking your books.

Bob1234
Bob1234

According to a Siena Research Institute poll of registered NYS voters released January 17:

“Two Cuomo gun proposals are strongly supported by voters:
– Voters support banning assault weapons and magazine clips of more than seven bullets 73-26 percent;
– Voters support increasing penalties purchasing illegal guns or using guns on school grounds 91-8 percent”

These polls show a very wide margin of support for Cuomo.

Jelkon
Jelkon

well, ask the right question and you can get the answer you want. who would answer the poll question any other way " Voters support increasing penalties for purchasing illegal guns or using guns on school grounds 91-8 percent”. who would support purchasing ILLEGAL (not changing the meaning of illegal ) GUNS or using guns on School grounds, duh. how about asking if murder or rape should be illegal and have penalties. pretty sure answer is the same. If you read the article the poll you quote, you leave out important info. " the full question" asked in a way to get the response desired. I my self do not support the new gun laws. but when asked if I believe penalties for purchasing illegal guns or using guns on school grounds there can be no other answer. ( this was not a 2 part question but one question with only one response. It should have been 100% -0%. If you look at the first question' the same is true. The full question and the circumstances it was asked in make it poll is skewed.

Bob1234
Bob1234

The 'full question' on enacting an assult weapons ban was:

"During his State of the State speech, Governor Cuomo proposed a number of initiatives. I'm going to mention several of them and I'd like you to tell me whether you support or oppose that proposal: Q27. Enacting the toughest assault weapons ban in the country, including banning any ammunition magazine that has more than 7 bullets"

Response: 73 percent supported enacting the toughest assault weapons ban in the country, including banning any ammunition magazine that has more than 7 bullets.

While polls are not a final arbiter of anything, they can provide an indication of how folks are feeling at the time. This question was quite straightforward, and the response was quite clear.

What's your point?

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